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	<description>Protecting wild times in wild places...</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on CBS News: Ancient Sites Being Destroyed by Vandals by Robert Payne</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/cbs-news-ancient-sites-being-destroyed-by-vandals/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"No one should make a sport out of destruction."

Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No one should make a sport out of destruction.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Newsletter—Schnoozletter? by Char</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/newsletter%e2%80%94schnoozletter/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>Char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing... Aldo Leopold is a hero of mine, too, for so many different reasons.  In 1925, he wrote "Our remnants of wilderness will yield bigger values to the nation's character and health than they will to its pocketbook, and to destroy them will be to admit that the latter are the only values that interest us."

We could probably go on all day, trading Leopold quotes.  What a smart person - and what a legacy.  Thank you, Aldo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing&#8230; Aldo Leopold is a hero of mine, too, for so many different reasons.  In 1925, he wrote &#8220;Our remnants of wilderness will yield bigger values to the nation&#8217;s character and health than they will to its pocketbook, and to destroy them will be to admit that the latter are the only values that interest us.&#8221;</p>
<p>We could probably go on all day, trading Leopold quotes.  What a smart person - and what a legacy.  Thank you, Aldo!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Newsletter—Schnoozletter? by Patricia R. Coia</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/newsletter%e2%80%94schnoozletter/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia R. Coia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm from Wisconsin and Aldo Leopold, founder of the Wilderness Society, has been a hero of mine for a long time. I see the Foundation's point in wanting a newsletter/magazine, but there is indeed too much paper out there--in the form of newsletters, catalogs, ads, etc. Less is better!  I'm reminded of Mr. Leopold's famous quote:  "A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise."   Sincerely, PRC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Wisconsin and Aldo Leopold, founder of the Wilderness Society, has been a hero of mine for a long time. I see the Foundation&#8217;s point in wanting a newsletter/magazine, but there is indeed too much paper out there&#8211;in the form of newsletters, catalogs, ads, etc. Less is better!  I&#8217;m reminded of Mr. Leopold&#8217;s famous quote:  &#8220;A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise.&#8221;   Sincerely, PRC</p>
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		<title>Comment on Science in Wilderness by Char</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/science-in-wilderness/#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With an emphasis on the "ich," the word ichthysaur sounds like something my older brother would have called me -- along with "turdface," or the weird but infuriating "mucous membrane."  What a dork.

But being an ichthysaur 100 million years ago sounds like it might have been pretty cool. They shared some similarities to our modern whales and dolphins; they were big, built for speed and breathed air. Humans first described the genus in 1699 from fossil fragments discovered in Wales.

A little more than 100 years later, in 1811, a 12-year-old girl named Mary Anning found the first complete ichthysaur fossil near her home in southern England.  Wikipedia says that Anning went on to become a well-known 19th century fossil collector and made several important discoveries that became key pieces of evidence supporting the then-new concept of extinction. Way to go Mary.

And hats off to the scientists working in Nevada's Augusta Mountains --  where the ichthysaurs once swam.  I hope their discoveries are fruitful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With an emphasis on the &#8220;ich,&#8221; the word ichthysaur sounds like something my older brother would have called me &#8212; along with &#8220;turdface,&#8221; or the weird but infuriating &#8220;mucous membrane.&#8221;  What a dork.</p>
<p>But being an ichthysaur 100 million years ago sounds like it might have been pretty cool. They shared some similarities to our modern whales and dolphins; they were big, built for speed and breathed air. Humans first described the genus in 1699 from fossil fragments discovered in Wales.</p>
<p>A little more than 100 years later, in 1811, a 12-year-old girl named Mary Anning found the first complete ichthysaur fossil near her home in southern England.  Wikipedia says that Anning went on to become a well-known 19th century fossil collector and made several important discoveries that became key pieces of evidence supporting the then-new concept of extinction. Way to go Mary.</p>
<p>And hats off to the scientists working in Nevada&#8217;s Augusta Mountains &#8212;  where the ichthysaurs once swam.  I hope their discoveries are fruitful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBS News: Ancient Sites Being Destroyed by Vandals by balmofgilead</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/cbs-news-ancient-sites-being-destroyed-by-vandals/#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>balmofgilead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Sweet Jesus.  TV doesn't do the damage justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Sweet Jesus.  TV doesn&#8217;t do the damage justice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Summer Backpack in the Hidden Forest of the Desert Refuge by balmofgilead</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/summer-backpack-in-the-hidden-forest-of-the-desert-refuge/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>balmofgilead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This place is huge...I've been in the northern, central, and southern portions, and it is as wild a place as there is in Nevada.  

It was established (the Desert Refuge) as a refuge for bighorn sheep in the 1930's, but what a lot of people don't know is there are hundreds of other species.  The geography and terrain and the biological diversity are amazing.  1.6 million acres (about the size of Delaware) right in Las Vegas' backyard.  Thanks for this post--I've got to do more overnighters there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This place is huge&#8230;I&#8217;ve been in the northern, central, and southern portions, and it is as wild a place as there is in Nevada.  </p>
<p>It was established (the Desert Refuge) as a refuge for bighorn sheep in the 1930&#8217;s, but what a lot of people don&#8217;t know is there are hundreds of other species.  The geography and terrain and the biological diversity are amazing.  1.6 million acres (about the size of Delaware) right in Las Vegas&#8217; backyard.  Thanks for this post&#8211;I&#8217;ve got to do more overnighters there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Update on Petersen Mountain/Evans Ranch Development by Alan Hefner</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/update-on-petersen-mountainevans-ranch-development/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better late than never I guess but I just now found your post here. I too am opposed to the proposed development of Evans ranch near Petersen Mountain. To shove that many people into the area would certainly be a disaster for the Petersen Mountain Natural Area!

When I first saw the natural area on my maps, I could not understand why such a small area would have the designation. It simply didn't make sense to me. If an area is to be set aside for wildlife habitat, it always needs to be large enough to accomplish the task. Even though Evans Ranch was private property, that space should have been purchased by the BLM and included in the plan. The "County Highway" (dirt road! but on the map) could have remained as an access point.

My last trips to Petersen were a couple of months ago and there was still quite a bit of snow on the ground. Little evidence of recent Mule Deer activity but it did seem to have the possibility of providing good feed and cover during the limited migrations during spring and fall.

I will certainly support all opposition to the Evans Ranch development.

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better late than never I guess but I just now found your post here. I too am opposed to the proposed development of Evans ranch near Petersen Mountain. To shove that many people into the area would certainly be a disaster for the Petersen Mountain Natural Area!</p>
<p>When I first saw the natural area on my maps, I could not understand why such a small area would have the designation. It simply didn&#8217;t make sense to me. If an area is to be set aside for wildlife habitat, it always needs to be large enough to accomplish the task. Even though Evans Ranch was private property, that space should have been purchased by the BLM and included in the plan. The &#8220;County Highway&#8221; (dirt road! but on the map) could have remained as an access point.</p>
<p>My last trips to Petersen were a couple of months ago and there was still quite a bit of snow on the ground. Little evidence of recent Mule Deer activity but it did seem to have the possibility of providing good feed and cover during the limited migrations during spring and fall.</p>
<p>I will certainly support all opposition to the Evans Ranch development.</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mineral County resident rejects proposed wilderness by balmofgilead</title>
		<link>http://weethump.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/mineral-county-resident-rejects-proposed-wilderness/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>balmofgilead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Bill Schneider's &lt;a href="http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/wilderness_is_multiple_use/C146/L41/" rel="nofollow"&gt;column in New West &lt;/a&gt;on wilderness and multiple use.  I share his frustration that most people who rail about wilderness "banning" multiple use don't understand that WILDERNESS IS A MULTIPLE USE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Bill Schneider&#8217;s <a href="http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/wilderness_is_multiple_use/C146/L41/" rel="nofollow">column in New West </a>on wilderness and multiple use.  I share his frustration that most people who rail about wilderness &#8220;banning&#8221; multiple use don&#8217;t understand that WILDERNESS IS A MULTIPLE USE.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mineral County resident rejects proposed wilderness by dan heinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan heinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also am rural to the core, and have lived 90% of my 72 years in very small rural communities scattered over the west.while following my heart and a career with the US Forest Service. I know very well how self-rightous enviros can be a real pain in the butt. However, they do get some things right.

We now live in remote Washoe County. My 5 children were raised backpacking and walking to remote fishing and hunting spots. Their 10 children and two grand children spend all possible time in wild country on foot or horseback. Family time in remote, quiet, motor- free backcountry is as good as it gets. It's also always where to find the best hunting and fishing. Besides, none of us could ever afford expensive machines.

My experience is broad. I have seen all too often what happens to unprotected wild country. I do not doubt that local residents like John D value the remoteness and wildness of the surrounding public lands.  We must remember the land belongs to all of us and we all share management expense. 

The hordes on wheels are coming. We must set aside some select and sizeable areas to protect that wildness while there is time. There most certainly is also room for a carefully planned system of motorized routes. Much of Nevada is lucky: the population increases and mobility of the motorized public have been slow coming. However, they have already hit eastern Nevada hard, disrupting locals traditional drive to camping and hunting spots; they will be here soon. 

I must add: The MU act was inacted when I was in the 6th year of my carreer. I heard, in person the author of that act, Dr. Richard McCardle, then Chief of the US Forest Service, explain the purpose of the Multiple Use concept. The MU act was intended to place the non-valued resources like scenery and wildlife on an equal legal footing with commodity extraction activities like logging and mining. It was never intended to mandate all uses on all areas. Neither was it intended to place any use or uses on a higher plain than any other.

I think a very good case could be made that Wilderness protects multiple use by not allowing modern machinery to displace wildlife or disrupt  traditional uses of the land such as ranching, hunting, trapping, fishing, horseback riding and hiking. In addition, there is no better protection for watersheds than Wilderness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am rural to the core, and have lived 90% of my 72 years in very small rural communities scattered over the west.while following my heart and a career with the US Forest Service. I know very well how self-rightous enviros can be a real pain in the butt. However, they do get some things right.</p>
<p>We now live in remote Washoe County. My 5 children were raised backpacking and walking to remote fishing and hunting spots. Their 10 children and two grand children spend all possible time in wild country on foot or horseback. Family time in remote, quiet, motor- free backcountry is as good as it gets. It&#8217;s also always where to find the best hunting and fishing. Besides, none of us could ever afford expensive machines.</p>
<p>My experience is broad. I have seen all too often what happens to unprotected wild country. I do not doubt that local residents like John D value the remoteness and wildness of the surrounding public lands.  We must remember the land belongs to all of us and we all share management expense. </p>
<p>The hordes on wheels are coming. We must set aside some select and sizeable areas to protect that wildness while there is time. There most certainly is also room for a carefully planned system of motorized routes. Much of Nevada is lucky: the population increases and mobility of the motorized public have been slow coming. However, they have already hit eastern Nevada hard, disrupting locals traditional drive to camping and hunting spots; they will be here soon. </p>
<p>I must add: The MU act was inacted when I was in the 6th year of my carreer. I heard, in person the author of that act, Dr. Richard McCardle, then Chief of the US Forest Service, explain the purpose of the Multiple Use concept. The MU act was intended to place the non-valued resources like scenery and wildlife on an equal legal footing with commodity extraction activities like logging and mining. It was never intended to mandate all uses on all areas. Neither was it intended to place any use or uses on a higher plain than any other.</p>
<p>I think a very good case could be made that Wilderness protects multiple use by not allowing modern machinery to displace wildlife or disrupt  traditional uses of the land such as ranching, hunting, trapping, fishing, horseback riding and hiking. In addition, there is no better protection for watersheds than Wilderness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mineral County resident rejects proposed wilderness by John Deymonaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Deymonaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who have lived in rural Nevada for generations understand this beautiful land very well.  We also understand that creating wildrness areas where they do not exist, per the Wilderness Act of 1964, will only take away the access our families have enjoyed for decades.  We also understand that once a "wilderness" designation is applied to a piece of land there is no going back, and no compromise.  Multiple Use has served the residents of rural Nevada very well, and has allowed EVERYONE to enjoy our wonderful PUBLIC lands.  

I am one of the "locals" enviornmental groups look down on, however, we are not crazy one issue red necks who are out of touch with reality!  We live in rural Nevada, and every day we enjoy and live in the reality the wilderness fanatics want to eliminate.  Wilderness designation of our PUBLIC lands is not the answer, it is the nightmare we do not want to see happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who have lived in rural Nevada for generations understand this beautiful land very well.  We also understand that creating wildrness areas where they do not exist, per the Wilderness Act of 1964, will only take away the access our families have enjoyed for decades.  We also understand that once a &#8220;wilderness&#8221; designation is applied to a piece of land there is no going back, and no compromise.  Multiple Use has served the residents of rural Nevada very well, and has allowed EVERYONE to enjoy our wonderful PUBLIC lands.  </p>
<p>I am one of the &#8220;locals&#8221; enviornmental groups look down on, however, we are not crazy one issue red necks who are out of touch with reality!  We live in rural Nevada, and every day we enjoy and live in the reality the wilderness fanatics want to eliminate.  Wilderness designation of our PUBLIC lands is not the answer, it is the nightmare we do not want to see happen.</p>
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